[One day, he will actually get used to how quickly you and Yashiro can make a conversation turn sexual...but anyway!]
1. Vaguely! My memories are not completely clear, but I'm fairly positive you and I went to a lovely Izakaya. Is that what you remember?
2. As for this...
[Sycamore actually has to think about #2 for a moment. It would be easy to say something along the lines of...well, pretty much anything that involves binding Yashiro and hurting him in some manner, but he's aware that he and Doumeki are already regularly having sex and that's likely the main theme. The whole point of this exercise is to move toward more of an emotional connection, so wouldn't the ideal suggestion be a more intimate kind of act? But that could send Yashiro running for the hills...
....mhmm. Complicated! But he is not a professor for nothing....]
...well. Let's start with things you're already doing regularly together, so I have all the information. Feel free to be as explicit as you're comfortable with. We will find something new and fun for you two to do!
1. It's the same for me. I saw several people I knew, and... I was with the boss. We were married, weren't we?
[ He doesn't know what to do about that. I mean he does know. He is ecstatic just thinking about how good things had been, but also... he knows the thought must terrify Yashiro. He hasn't asked him. He could never ask him. ]
2. I understand. This may be a bit personal, but I trust you, so I will be explicit. [ Wow. Big words. ] The boss and I regularly engage in violent, rough sex, especially around Sanguis or the triple moons. He gifted me a collar to put on him, and I have tied him down with things like ties or belts, which I know he likes. A few weeks ago, I nearly drowned him, which he seemed to enjoy. (It was not on purpose, please rest assured that I would never hurt the boss in any way he did not wish to be hurt.)
It is not always violent. We have made love before, and he regularly wakes me with blowjobs at home. I return the favor when I can, but he is much better at it than I am. I like being able to kiss him, and taste him, and lavish him with the affection I know he deserves, but it is much harder to be gentle with him than it is to be rough. He is resistant to gentleness, as you know.
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The reply will be slightly delayed, mainly because Sycamore needs to sit for a moment and process everything in the second part of that message (he got stuck on "A few weeks ago, I nearly drowned him, which he seemed to enjoy." for a good few minutes.)]
We can get back to the time travel later; I think we should focus on the present, for now. Firstly, please please please do not try any more drowning, even if Yashiro begs for it! That is far too dangerous, Doumeki!
[You can't say the safe-word if you've got no air!!]
[He has said his piece about the drowning, so no more will be said on it! At least...the rest of the message seemed normal enough, if 'normal' for Yashiro and Doumeki's standards....]
I know that Yashiro tends to engage in his masochistic sex regularly- [-which is the nice way of saying 'with every man he can'-] -so I think we need to focus on that gentleness aspect. You want to differentiate the sex he has with you, to the rest. Yours should be special to him. Because you are special to him!
So we have the problem of Yashiro instinctively pulling away when you try to bring that gentleness into the sex you two have, even if he may enjoy it. I did have a thought, on that - have you considered, or already tried, introducing a bit more of it during Iris? I know he and I both get a lot more affectionate and gentle during that moon phase, so it could be a good introductory point.
[ Haha, you think they use safe words. That's cute, Sycamore. ]
I know that I should not have done it. I do not intend to do it again. The moons... I was not in the right mind, but that does not excuse the danger I put the boss in. I am fortunate that he was not hurt. I would never forgive myself if I hurt him.
[ Kinkshamed.... he deserved it, though. They gotta be more careful!!! But I mean, we all know he'd do it again if Yashiro asked, he'd just actually be more careful this time.
But he did feel bad, afterwards. It's just that the future thing happened kind of soon after so he hasn't really had time to dwell on it much. ]
I worry he might find it boring, if we only have slow, gentle sex Any time I have sex with him feels special But I think I understand what you mean It is different, when he is with me
[ Well, there's the fact that Doumeki likes soft sex just as much as he likes getting a little violent with Yashiro, but that's something he can barely admit to himself, so he's not about to spit that out. ]
We have only had sex during Iris a few times Would it not be unfair, if the moon were to make him more susceptible to kind gestures? I do not want to take advantage of him
[ So is Yashiro taking advantage of Doumeki during Sanguis? That totally doesn't count! It's not the same. ]
[...at least we have clarified that no more Drowning Play will be happening. That is good news.
The question about Iris gives Sycamore pause. It's a very good point, although the concept of taking advantage of someone by being...gentle with them...it's hard to fathom. But the fact that Doumeki is worried about that...]
The moonblessings do make that question rather complicated, don't they? I do know what you mean. You don't want to try something so emotionally charged when he might not be in his right mind. It's a good thing to be aware of.
What I've found with Iris - at least, in my own experience - is that it drags up my deepest desires. I become incredibly affectionate, and want to express it in ways that I would normally be embarrassed about, or shy about. Anything to keep that affection going, particularly with my object of it. Perhaps rather than push him into anything during Iris or the Triple Moon, you could let him lead.
I don't think you would be taking advantage of him. Just observing. Seeing what he likes, when he's with someone he cares deeply about.
What you do with that information is up to you, mon ami.
[ It was One Time....... but Doumeki takes any time Yashiro is in danger very seriously, so of course he's going to be extra careful from now on, if he winds up a koi-merman again. ]
I love the boss, regardless of whether the Iris moon makes him more open to my affections I know the boss has had negative experiences My worry would be if Iris made him unable to voice his discomfort I would not forgive myself if I made him suffer through my own selfishness
[ Oh, Doumeki... Being kind isn't selfish. And yet... ]
But perhaps as you said, if I allow him to lead during Iris... Then anything we do would be something he enjoyed I hope that is the case
But I still want to do something special for him The date itself will be special, but I want to give him more Especially after the future we saw
[Oh Doumeki.......Sycamore tries not to worry too much about you.]
I understand. Keep the Iris idea in mind, and we'll work on what you can do for your date. What have you got planned for it? Why don't we start there. Perhaps we can think of something that will tie it all together nicely!
[He's got a few ideas - mainly involving that chocolate - but let's see what Doumeki is thinking first.]
[ When it comes to Yashiro, he's always trying his best. ]
I will, thank you I am planning to give the boss handmade chocolates Miyata-san showed me how to make liqueur truffles They took several tries so I hope he likes them
We are meeting for dinner this time I assume we will have sex after, like last time
[Thankfully, Sycamore is smart enough to know that going straight to 'eating sushi off one another, intimately' right now would be....a terrible idea. However!]
Would you consider maybe mixing a bit of aphrodisiac into a couple of those chocolates, as a fun surprise? Telling him about it before he eats them, of course!
[ Sycamore must mean in the future, he doubts Yashiro will fess up to remembering their night out otherwise. Not when they shared all that they did... ]
[Listen Doumeki if you want to mutually gang up on your delightful boss and force him to stop lying, Sycamore would be down-]
Oh, I didn't even think about it, from that angle! Moreso that the aphro could be a fun thing to introduce into the bedroom, that's out of the ordinary.
[You know, that doesn't involve the usual...masochism, etc. Anyway...]
[ He'd never admit to something so dastardly but the thought is definitely there... ]
I think the boss would like that I will see about obtaining some to make a new batch of chocolates
No, I don't think so But he often acts as though he has forgotten things that would make him uncomfortable Or things that make him confront his feelings He has done it before
That certainly doesn't sound out of character for him, no.
[Hmmm. Sycamore had - mistakenly - been under the impression that Yashiro would be pleased with the developments they'd witnessed in their future visit, but perhaps he should have known better. It makes him pause for a moment, before replying.]
Are you planning to bring it up on your date, or let it lie?
It is difficult for him to address his own problems Things have not gone well for him In general So he believes it is safer than acknowledging it
[ Even dating.... Doumeki knows he's never dated before. Some part of him doesn't want to admit it, but they're probably dating because Yashiro knows it's only here, and things will go back to square 1 at home. ]
I will not bring it up I am content to let things play out It is better than risking the alternative Also I
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I have known that he loves me for some time Hearing him say it... made my heart very light My feelings for him will not change Regardless of whether he "remembers" or not
It is definitely for the best that you don't talk about this on your date, Doumeki. Keep it light.
[Especially since it's an emotional enough subject without the addition of any thoughts of marriage...that level of permanence...Sycamore himself wasn't sure what to think of the fact that he was married, let alone what Yashiro and Doumeki must be going through...
...hmm.]
It's a happy thing for you to think of, though, isn't it? A future like that.
I intend to I don't want to disturb the boss His comfort is my highest priority
[ It's why he didn't ask him out on a date in the first place. Doumeki could never initiate. And marriage is beyond his wildest dreams... ]
I was very happy A future like that... is more than I could have ever dreamed I don't know how I could ever reach that kind of happiness But it is nice to have the memories
All I want is to make sure the boss is happy But he won't be happy if I force too much on him So I will wait as long as it takes
They are nice memories, aren't they? You could think of them as a lovely little treasure, just for you. That's what I'm planning on doing, anyway.
Just try not to get too lost in the fantasy, mon ami. As wonderful as that future was, it's best to focus on the Yashiro you have here with you now.
[Not that he thinks Doumeki needs him to tell him that, but still.]
Do you think the spiked chocolates would serve as a suitable new sex act, after your date? Something new and fun, that won't push the intimacy in ways Yashiro might be uncomfortable with. I'm more than happy to help you with other suggestions if you think they might not do it.
[We're about to enter another round of 'Sycamore-sensei's Explicit Lessons', aren't we....how did it come to this, Doumeki....]
If you give him the aphrodisiac - again, make sure he knows he's taking it! - and tie his hands, he won't be able to give himself any relief. Not without you involved, anyway. That's rather sexy, don't you think? Plus, we both know how much Yashiro loves to be tied down. If you want to do something you know will please him, I don't think that's strange at all!
[Listen, as long as you never, ever mention drowning again, Sycamore can handle the TMI. It's almost refreshing....]
You know what he likes better than me, mon ami. But what you're describing certainly sounds like something he'd be excited about. Especially since you're mixing in things you both like, along with the surprise, so it will be enjoyable for both of you!
[ He definitely won't... Guessing you don't want to hear about the violent dragon sex either, huh, Sycamore. ]
I hope so I want this date to go well Even if I cannot replicate the future we saw I want to come close to it, someday
It's only since arriving here that I have improved I did not have much experience before But I have listened to the boss and observed him closely So I hope I can do right by him
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1. Vaguely! My memories are not completely clear, but I'm fairly positive you and I went to a lovely Izakaya. Is that what you remember?
2. As for this...
[Sycamore actually has to think about #2 for a moment. It would be easy to say something along the lines of...well, pretty much anything that involves binding Yashiro and hurting him in some manner, but he's aware that he and Doumeki are already regularly having sex and that's likely the main theme. The whole point of this exercise is to move toward more of an emotional connection, so wouldn't the ideal suggestion be a more intimate kind of act? But that could send Yashiro running for the hills...
....mhmm. Complicated! But he is not a professor for nothing....]
...well. Let's start with things you're already doing regularly together, so I have all the information. Feel free to be as explicit as you're comfortable with. We will find something new and fun for you two to do!
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1. It's the same for me. I saw several people I knew, and... I was with the boss. We were married, weren't we?
[ He doesn't know what to do about that. I mean he does know. He is ecstatic just thinking about how good things had been, but also... he knows the thought must terrify Yashiro. He hasn't asked him. He could never ask him. ]
2. I understand. This may be a bit personal, but I trust you, so I will be explicit. [ Wow. Big words. ] The boss and I regularly engage in violent, rough sex, especially around Sanguis or the triple moons. He gifted me a collar to put on him, and I have tied him down with things like ties or belts, which I know he likes. A few weeks ago, I nearly drowned him, which he seemed to enjoy. (It was not on purpose, please rest assured that I would never hurt the boss in any way he did not wish to be hurt.)
It is not always violent. We have made love before, and he regularly wakes me with blowjobs at home. I return the favor when I can, but he is much better at it than I am. I like being able to kiss him, and taste him, and lavish him with the affection I know he deserves, but it is much harder to be gentle with him than it is to be rough. He is resistant to gentleness, as you know.
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...where...to even begin with this....?!
The reply will be slightly delayed, mainly because Sycamore needs to sit for a moment and process everything in the second part of that message (he got stuck on "A few weeks ago, I nearly drowned him, which he seemed to enjoy." for a good few minutes.)]
We can get back to the time travel later; I think we should focus on the present, for now. Firstly, please please please do not try any more drowning, even if Yashiro begs for it! That is far too dangerous, Doumeki!
[You can't say the safe-word if you've got no air!!]
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[He has said his piece about the drowning, so no more will be said on it! At least...the rest of the message seemed normal enough, if 'normal' for Yashiro and Doumeki's standards....]
I know that Yashiro tends to engage in his masochistic sex regularly- [-which is the nice way of saying 'with every man he can'-] -so I think we need to focus on that gentleness aspect. You want to differentiate the sex he has with you, to the rest. Yours should be special to him. Because you are special to him!
So we have the problem of Yashiro instinctively pulling away when you try to bring that gentleness into the sex you two have, even if he may enjoy it. I did have a thought, on that - have you considered, or already tried, introducing a bit more of it during Iris? I know he and I both get a lot more affectionate and gentle during that moon phase, so it could be a good introductory point.
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I know that I should not have done it. I do not intend to do it again. The moons... I was not in the right mind, but that does not excuse the danger I put the boss in. I am fortunate that he was not hurt. I would never forgive myself if I hurt him.
[ Kinkshamed.... he deserved it, though. They gotta be more careful!!! But I mean, we all know he'd do it again if Yashiro asked, he'd just actually be more careful this time.
But he did feel bad, afterwards. It's just that the future thing happened kind of soon after so he hasn't really had time to dwell on it much. ]
I worry he might find it boring, if we only have slow, gentle sex
Any time I have sex with him feels special
But I think I understand what you mean
It is different, when he is with me
[ Well, there's the fact that Doumeki likes soft sex just as much as he likes getting a little violent with Yashiro, but that's something he can barely admit to himself, so he's not about to spit that out. ]
We have only had sex during Iris a few times
Would it not be unfair, if the moon were to make him more susceptible to kind gestures?
I do not want to take advantage of him
[ So is Yashiro taking advantage of Doumeki during Sanguis? That totally doesn't count! It's not the same. ]
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The question about Iris gives Sycamore pause. It's a very good point, although the concept of taking advantage of someone by being...gentle with them...it's hard to fathom. But the fact that Doumeki is worried about that...]
The moonblessings do make that question rather complicated, don't they? I do know what you mean. You don't want to try something so emotionally charged when he might not be in his right mind. It's a good thing to be aware of.
What I've found with Iris - at least, in my own experience - is that it drags up my deepest desires. I become incredibly affectionate, and want to express it in ways that I would normally be embarrassed about, or shy about. Anything to keep that affection going, particularly with my object of it. Perhaps rather than push him into anything during Iris or the Triple Moon, you could let him lead.
I don't think you would be taking advantage of him. Just observing. Seeing what he likes, when he's with someone he cares deeply about.
What you do with that information is up to you, mon ami.
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I love the boss, regardless of whether the Iris moon makes him more open to my affections
I know the boss has had negative experiences
My worry would be if Iris made him unable to voice his discomfort
I would not forgive myself if I made him suffer through my own selfishness
[ Oh, Doumeki... Being kind isn't selfish. And yet... ]
But perhaps as you said, if I allow him to lead during Iris...
Then anything we do would be something he enjoyed
I hope that is the case
But I still want to do something special for him
The date itself will be special, but I want to give him more
Especially after the future we saw
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I understand. Keep the Iris idea in mind, and we'll work on what you can do for your date. What have you got planned for it? Why don't we start there. Perhaps we can think of something that will tie it all together nicely!
[He's got a few ideas - mainly involving that chocolate - but let's see what Doumeki is thinking first.]
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I will, thank you
I am planning to give the boss handmade chocolates
Miyata-san showed me how to make liqueur truffles
They took several tries so I hope he likes them
We are meeting for dinner this time
I assume we will have sex after, like last time
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That sounds like a wonderful plan! I'm so happy you're going for dinner.
Now, I have a question. Do you remember, in your vision of the future, eating sushi laced with an aphrodisiac?
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It was so wonderful, he'd even come more than once... yes, he remembers that very clearly. ]
Did the boss tell you about that?
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[Thankfully, Sycamore is smart enough to know that going straight to 'eating sushi off one another, intimately' right now would be....a terrible idea. However!]
Would you consider maybe mixing a bit of aphrodisiac into a couple of those chocolates, as a fun surprise? Telling him about it before he eats them, of course!
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[ Sycamore must mean in the future, he doubts Yashiro will fess up to remembering their night out otherwise. Not when they shared all that they did... ]
That may be a good idea
It could jog his memory
[ More like force him to stop lying. ]
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Oh, I didn't even think about it, from that angle! Moreso that the aphro could be a fun thing to introduce into the bedroom, that's out of the ordinary.
[You know, that doesn't involve the usual...masochism, etc. Anyway...]
Has he forgotten everything that happened, then?
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I think the boss would like that
I will see about obtaining some to make a new batch of chocolates
No, I don't think so
But he often acts as though he has forgotten things that would make him uncomfortable
Or things that make him confront his feelings
He has done it before
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[Hmmm. Sycamore had - mistakenly - been under the impression that Yashiro would be pleased with the developments they'd witnessed in their future visit, but perhaps he should have known better. It makes him pause for a moment, before replying.]
Are you planning to bring it up on your date, or let it lie?
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Things have not gone well for him
In general
So he believes it is safer than acknowledging it
[ Even dating.... Doumeki knows he's never dated before. Some part of him doesn't want to admit it, but they're probably dating because Yashiro knows it's only here, and things will go back to square 1 at home. ]
I will not bring it up
I am content to let things play out
It is better than risking the alternative
Also I
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I have known that he loves me for some time
Hearing him say it... made my heart very light
My feelings for him will not change
Regardless of whether he "remembers" or not
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[Especially since it's an emotional enough subject without the addition of any thoughts of marriage...that level of permanence...Sycamore himself wasn't sure what to think of the fact that he was married, let alone what Yashiro and Doumeki must be going through...
...hmm.]
It's a happy thing for you to think of, though, isn't it? A future like that.
Is that what you want?
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I don't want to disturb the boss
His comfort is my highest priority
[ It's why he didn't ask him out on a date in the first place. Doumeki could never initiate. And marriage is beyond his wildest dreams... ]
I was very happy
A future like that... is more than I could have ever dreamed
I don't know how I could ever reach that kind of happiness
But it is nice to have the memories
All I want is to make sure the boss is happy
But he won't be happy if I force too much on him
So I will wait as long as it takes
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They are nice memories, aren't they? You could think of them as a lovely little treasure, just for you. That's what I'm planning on doing, anyway.
Just try not to get too lost in the fantasy, mon ami. As wonderful as that future was, it's best to focus on the Yashiro you have here with you now.
[Not that he thinks Doumeki needs him to tell him that, but still.]
Do you think the spiked chocolates would serve as a suitable new sex act, after your date? Something new and fun, that won't push the intimacy in ways Yashiro might be uncomfortable with. I'm more than happy to help you with other suggestions if you think they might not do it.
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So I will treasure them always
[ It also means he never, ever wants to leave Prisma now, so good job, future! ]
I know
The boss needs me today
As good as it felt to be so open and close to him
That is a privilege I will have to earn
I am not sure
I can feed him the chocolates, but what then?
I think I want to tie him down
Is that strange?
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[We're about to enter another round of 'Sycamore-sensei's Explicit Lessons', aren't we....how did it come to this, Doumeki....]
If you give him the aphrodisiac - again, make sure he knows he's taking it! - and tie his hands, he won't be able to give himself any relief. Not without you involved, anyway. That's rather sexy, don't you think? Plus, we both know how much Yashiro loves to be tied down. If you want to do something you know will please him, I don't think that's strange at all!
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Yes, I would give him the option to turn it down
But he enjoys that
Denying himself
And it might make him beg
Which I like
[ Ok, getting a little TMI there Doumeki, bring it back. ]
You are better at putting into words than I am
I think I will try that, then
Perhaps with the collar as well
[ Annnd right back into TMI. This whole thing is TMI though, to be fair. ]
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You know what he likes better than me, mon ami. But what you're describing certainly sounds like something he'd be excited about. Especially since you're mixing in things you both like, along with the surprise, so it will be enjoyable for both of you!
You're better at this than you think, you know.
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I hope so
I want this date to go well
Even if I cannot replicate the future we saw
I want to come close to it, someday
It's only since arriving here that I have improved
I did not have much experience before
But I have listened to the boss and observed him closely
So I hope I can do right by him
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